B3 seems to be working fine where it is on the clan leaders pc, so i think we'll stick with it. The cpanel for the website does have remote mysql. The Read me for echelon is kind of vague. from what i understand i need to ftp the echelon file to public html, create mysql db and ftp echelon.sql from there i'm not certain how to proceed, i found an echelon video on youtube but it's in french.. i did not set up B3 on the pc, i can get teamveiwer access to it though, how would i connect B3 to remotemysql? this software is all very new to me. Thank you for helping.