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« on: September 30, 2011, 01:57:05 PM »

Hello.

My FFA server is counting my players kills as Team kills in the xlrstats database anyidea why Wink?
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2011, 07:23:10 AM »

Yes, this is a bug is CoD4 where in a FFA it reports every kill as a team kill. I don't think there is any fix but as a workaround you can remove TK from the xlrstats plugin.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2011, 06:26:23 AM »

It doesn't report every kill?

When you choose DM/FFA, COD based games will still only provide 3 teams. the third being spectator.

And when you kill someone else that is on "your" team, then it counts as a tk.

Are you sure it's a bug in cod, and not in the TK section of xlrstats?
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 04:30:35 AM »

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<snip> Just bear in mind that CoD4 still has a log-file bug that in the Kill lines there is no teaminfo. So all teamkill related stuff is not known.
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They should just fix the bug... it's one line of code in the gamescripts

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This actually is a good question, and I'll try to explain it. I hope I come across Wink

The problem is known, cod4 writes down wrong (incomplete) loglines when a kill occurs. The game engine itself does not depend on the log files it writes. The game logic is handled within the game engine and therefor the final score sheet of CoD4 is pretty much okay (I presume).

B3 however does depend heavily on the gamelogs, so there is your difference between the game engine and B3.

That you disabled the tk plugin prevents B3 from acting upon the faulty information, it does not fix or ignore the faulty information. B3 and in particular the xlrstats plugin still does handle the faulty information that ends up in the database of xlrstats. So B3 will no longer kick for faulty tk information, but the stats do still save some wrong info to the database.

There is not much we can do to prevent this from happening. B3 is totally dependent on the info it gets from the game log, and as long as that is wrong or incomplete information we'll have to suck it up and explain it to our gamers...
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What I'm refffering to is the team bug. From what I remember, cod4 is not able to give players' team information correctly. Here's an old post by xlr8or explaining this.

This is also the reason why you see all players as spectators etc.
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http://forum.bigbrotherbot.net/xlrstats/teamkills-on-xlrstats/
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As you can tell this is a bug with cod4 where it doesn't write the team when it writes the bullet.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 07:34:40 AM »

Well, there you go Smiley

That was more than i knew, thank you for clearing that up.
And is this bug isolated to the COD 4 game only?
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 09:10:03 AM »

I have no idea if it affects the entire CoD series, I expect it does since they all use the same engine, but I have not seen this in CoD7, so maybe they fixed it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 12:59:13 PM »

So there's no fix i guess Shocked?
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 01:08:57 PM »

So there's no fix i guess Shocked?
There is no way to fix the game server. However, you can remove the part from xlrstats that parses teamkills and they won't show up. Or you can just ignore it.
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